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		<title>HMS Illustrious at Greenwich</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Upon alighting from the Docklands Light Railway at Cutty Sark, Greenwich on Friday the view of the Thames was dominated by a huge warship.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon alighting from the Docklands Light Railway at Cutty Sark, Greenwich on Friday the view of the Thames was dominated by a huge warship.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.1261">HMS Illustrious</a> is moored in the Thames off Greenwich for a week to help with the Royal Navy&#8217;s participation in Remembrance Day commemorations in London. This year is the 90th anniversary of the end of the First World War.</p>
<p><strong>HMS Illustrious</strong> was also used as a platform for the November 6TH Fireworks display which by all accounts was quite spectacular, being accompanied by the dramatic sounds of Tchaikovsky&#8217;s 1812 overture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/aroberts/3018400087/" title="Fireworks Over HMS Illustrious, Greenwich, London by Andyrob, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3018400087_7a3f6d879d.jpg" alt="Fireworks Over HMS Illustrious, Greenwich, London" height="331" width="500" title="Hms Illustrious At Greenwich Pic" /></a></p>
<p>Photo derived from one by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/simonstarr/3008263961/">Simon Starr</a></p>
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		<title>Can Countries go Bankrupt?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The IMF has a $250 billion bailout fund for use in emergencies to lend to  countries that could go bankrupt, but this is not enough to cope with today&#8217;s mounting crises so some of the rich oil producing states are being asked to contribute to an extension fund.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IMF has a $250 billion bailout fund for use in emergencies to lend to  countries that could go bankrupt, but this is not enough to cope with today&#8217;s mounting crises so some of the rich oil producing states are being asked to contribute to an extension fund.</p>
<p>Ukraine accepted a 40 billion dollar loan from the IMF to avoid bankruptcy, Romania is currently negotiating and Iceland has already taken drastic measures after the collapse of its financial sector. Belarus and Hungary are also on the critical danger list but the UK and Switzerland have serious national debt and currency problems as well.</p>
<p>Iceland has enough natural resources to survive in some way outside of the global financial system but The UK should be especially worried, as one of the main importers of goods in Western Europe. UK national borrowings also tend to be in other currencies so the debt balance will almost certainly increase as the pound sterling weakens against both the dollar and the euro, after printing and lending out huge sums of money to avert the banking and finance sector crisis.</p>
<p>When Gordon Brown the UK prime minister went to tell the Eurozone leaders how to restructure their banking industries along the lines of the UK model this appeared as a great act of economic statesmanship, but I bet Sarkozy and Merkel had a quiet word in his ear about the UK ditching the pound and joining the euro zone eventually. The big question would be at what rate? The present rate doesn&#8217;t look too great, having fallen from 1.5 Euros to the Pound down to 1.25 over the past year or so, but as the financial crisis gets worse over the next few months the worsening terms could end up looking look more like a collapse and rescue operation rather than a dignified merger.</p>
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		<title>Wizz Jones with the Beatniks in Newquay Cornwall 1960</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wizz Jones sings a topical song about the Beatniks in Cornwall 1960 and Alan Whicker reports on the local council&#8217;s letter to shopkeepers urging them all to refuse to serve people with long hair.</p>
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<p class="citation"><cite cite="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GDsQSOf6_ow&amp;eurl=http://www.bendecho.com/02379a3ad4-wizz-jones-1960"><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GDsQSOf6_ow&amp;eurl=http://www.bendecho.com/02379a3ad4-wizz-jones-1960"><br />
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<p>Wizz Jones was one of the seminal acoustic singer songwriters who helped to create the british folk guitar style, and he still plays monthly at a small club in Tooting.</p>
<p>The beatnik era was before my time, in that I was a child in Cornwall at the time and can remember these stories on the local TV news programmes as well as seeing the &#8220;No Beatniks&#8221; signs in all the cafes in St Ives, another Cornish resort which took a hard line against the beats, eventually deploying police and dogs to chase them out of the town.</p>
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		<title>The Post Office for Best Broadband Deals</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Post Office might be one of the best broadband deals for anybody making the move from dial up to broadband for the first time because of the hand-holding you get with the setting up. It&#8217;s also a serious contender for anybody disatisfied with their present broadband provider and considering switching over. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Post Office might be one of the <u>best broadband deals</u> for anybody making the move from dial up to broadband for the first time because of the hand-holding you get with the setting up. It&#8217;s also a serious contender for anybody disatisfied with their present broadband provider and considering switching over. The Post Office have a simple choice of  broadband and/or telephone package with a free calls option and either medium usage or unlimited downloads. With all broadband options there is no connection or setting up charge and with broadband unlimited  you get a free wireless router. The homephone option also includes free calls to UK mobiles and twenty top international destinations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-2965240-10587424" target="_top">Post Office Broadband</a><br />
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<p>Q Which are these top  20 destinations for free  international phone calls?</p>
<p>A According to this new release from <a href="http://www.news.royalmailgroup.com">Royal Mail Group</a> the list includes:</p>
<p>Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, USA.</p>
<p>For alternative broadband suppliers  maybe check out <strong><a href="http://bestbroadbanddeals.org.uk" title="best broadband deals">Best Broadband Deals .org.uk</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Walkway Closed - No Pavement for Pedestrians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the old days, before you could do any kind of building or digging work that required a temporary closure of the pavement, it was necessary to erect a proper cordon with signs and diversions including a clearly marked safe route for pedestrians.  But now we seem to get all sorts of obstacles places in the way making travel by foot an increasingly hazardous venture. It&#8217;s not like this is some American city where everybody is expected to get around by car and walkers are treated like weirdos. No this is in central London where crowds of people get about using shanks&#8217;s pony on a regular basis. </p>
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<p>And it&#8217;s not just builders, scaffolders, road maintenance and utilities crews.  Where I live, a bit further out, parked cars are often left straddling the pavement blocking the right of way for pedestrians.  Other obstacles are provided by roadside businesses who decide to expand outwards from their shop front onto the pavement. Hand car wash services for example seem to use the pavement, kerb and bus lane as part of their workshop area. Then there are the tressel tables of vegetables in bowls, all at £1 each which are spreading like potato blight in front of all kinds of non-food related shops, to the extent that  proper greengrocers are going out of business unless they join in the bowls system as well. So now you can&#8217;t buy two lemons you have to have five, and a bowl of tomatoes is expensive at £1 whereas three aubergines might seem like a bargain until you notice that the two underneath are going brown.  <!-- technorati tags begin -->
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		<title>How is wealth destroyed and where does wealth come from?</title>
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<p>If 20 percent of the value of world stock markets can be wiped out in one week, as has just happened, then where does that wealth actually disappear to? Is it buried in a big hole somewhere, scuttled at sea or sent on a rocket into outer space? Apparently not, but if money can simply disappear from world markets how can we make any sense of the concept of value in finance. How is it measured and where did it come from in the first place?</p>
<h3>Theories of value</h3>
<p>In the first post of this series I asked &#8220;<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/26/where-does-money-come-from">where does money come from</a>&#8221; and gave a brief history of the origins of money in the form of precious metal coins used to facilitate the process of trade from simple barter to the exchange of goods of different values. Without exactly defining where money comes from I hinted at the idea that monetary value is realted to the total amount of work or labour which is tied up in bringing the goods to market. That&#8217;s a theory which is known as the labour theory of value and is not always widely accepted, probably due to association with a certain Karl Marx who took that theory, which was already known by cpaitalist economists, and developed it a bit further with his concept of &#8220;socially necessary labour time&#8221;. </p>
<h3>Money grows on trees</h3>
<p>People who don&#8217;t subscribe to the labour theory of value believe that money comes from being rewarded for taking risks, that value is determined entirely by the balance between supply and demand, and that substantial sums of money can somehow just &#8220;grow&#8221;. They say that money doesn&#8217;t grow on trees, but that&#8217;s not too dissimilar to the idea that interest just accumulates on investments because money begets more money. In reality, investments such as stocks and bank deposits typically pass through a number of hands but end up being used to buy goods not for consumption but for increased or more efficient production. Investment of capital buys machine tools, land, property and other wherewithal to employing labour in order to create goods or services for the market which can be sold at a profit. The important point here is that the capital doesn&#8217;t generate a single penny of orginal value until the employment of labour has happened. To be profitable, the output from this process of applying labour to previously accumulated capital must be of actual use to a buying market, and must be produced with a total number of labour hours which is competitive with alternative setups, such as differently tooled machine shops employing labour under different terms and conditions. That&#8217;s pretty much all that&#8217;s meant by the &#8220;socially necessary labour time&#8221; formulation really, to counter the idea that simply getting enough people to work hard for the the most minimal wages will necessarily creaste wealth. </p>
<h3>Wealth Ceated by Labour</h3>
<p>All wealth is created in the first place by labour, and that is the real answer to the question answer &#8220;where does money come from&#8221;. It comes from work that has been done by somebody, that has been abstracted and turned into a type of commodity itself, which can then change hands and accumulate, which can be exchanged for special kinds of products, Which can then be deployed in the employment of further labour. Capital is an accumulation of the results of previous rounds of expended labour, or &#8220;dead labour&#8221; as is sometimes expressed. The capital exchanged on world money markets then represents a further abstraction as speculators buy and sell options to receive the fruits of other people&#8217;s labour in the future, that hasn&#8217;t even been expended yet, and place bets on the likelihood of prices rising and falling. </p>
<h3>Destruction of Wealth in a Slump</h3>
<p>In a serious recession, when stock markets crash, and seemingly abstract wealth is destroyed, this is not just a accountancy game played out with pieces of paper or rather electronic transfers. It does actually play out into the very real destruction of productive capacity as enterprises go under or cut back and the very concrete machinery, buildings, expertise and systems are abandoned due to lack of a buying market that can afford their products at a profitable price. All of that overcapicity which has been built up out of the relentless requirement to reinvest and expand will be scrapped, levelled, and laid waste at the greatest of human cost until enough real capital has been wiped out for the accumulation cycle to begin all over again. In the current circumstances the effects are particularly catastrophic because the downturn had been temporarily postponed for a couple of decades or so through the use of massively expanded credit, which could distort the outward shape of the cycle for a short while, but never the underlying forces at work in any free market system based on the private ownership of capital.</p>
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		<title>What’s odd about this Dartboard? Found in an East London Pub</title>
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Do you notice anything odd about this dartboard seen in an East London pub recently? Most darts boards look a bit like this, but different.</p>
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<p>How on earth would you ever end a game of 301 on such a dart board?</p>
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		<title>Theatre Breaks</title>
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Having avoided traditional summer holidays the past two years, preferring to go abroad in the off seasons, I certainly won&#8217;t be cutting back on theatre breaks and other little weekends away or short breaks in the UK. Neither will hoards of other people up and down the country regardless of what [...]]]></description>
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<p>Having avoided traditional summer holidays the past two years, preferring to go abroad in the off seasons, I certainly won&#8217;t be cutting back on <em><strong>theatre breaks</strong></em> and other little weekends away or short breaks in the UK. Neither will hoards of other people up and down the country regardless of what the doom and gloom mongers would have us believe.</p>
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<p>Some might be thinking twice about booking long haul trips to Oceana and Asia, granted, and the shopping trip to New York is looking decidedly passe but there&#8217;s never been a better time for squeezing in a little treat of a weekend, just the two of you, with a bit of style in London&#8217;s West End.</p>
<h3>Hotel and Theatre Breaks in London</h3>
<p>With the shrinking of the finance sector and slightly less demand for business trips to London, the big hotels have a few rooms going spare and these are being bought up by tour operators who can then offer even better value hotel and <strong><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/theatrebreaksa">theatre breaks</a></strong> in London. The advantage of booking a hotel at the same time as your advance theatre tickets should be obvious really. To get the best out of a good night out at a top West End show you don&#8217;t want your shared elation to be instantly let down by a long and tiresome journey back with the night crowds. Instead, an after show drink in the hotel bar and a comfortable night allows the magic to continue though to the next day, with who knows what London has in store. Sightseeing, culture, chilling out on the river, fine dining - central London has it all with always more surprises, even if you only live in the Greater London area or home counties.</p>
<h3>Theatre Breaks by Rail</h3>
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<p>Cars are practically useless in central London so it&#8217;s usually best to arrive by train. The extra fast east-coast line is proves increasingly tempting, with discerning citizens from Doncaster, York, Newcastle, Darlington, Leeds, Wakefield, Sheffield, Stoke able to arrive at Kings Cross London in just a couple of hours or less. It&#8217;s a great way to travel from Norwich, Exeter, Cardiff, Coventry, Manchester. Bung it all on the same booking transaction and you can <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/theatrebreaksb" title="theatre breaks with rail ">save up to 40% on the advance rail fares</a>.</p>
<h3>Favourite London Theatre Shows</h3>
<p>One or two musicals have closed recently and there are some interesting new ones coming up, but here is a selection which have become standard West End Favourites:</p>
<p><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-les-mis" title="Les Miserables theatre breaks">Les Miserables</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-phantom-of-the-opera" title="Phantom of the Opera theatre breaks"> Phantom of the Opera</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-billy-elliot" title="Billy Elliot theatre breaks"> Billy Elliot</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-we-will-rock-you" title="We will rock you theatre breaks"> We Will Rock You</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-mamma-mia" title="Mamma Mia theatre breaks"> Mamma Mia</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-blood-brothers" title="blood brothers theatre breaks"> Blood Brothers</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-dirty-dancing" title="Dirty Dancing theatre breaks"> Dirty Dancing</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-sound-of-music" title="Sound of Music breaks"> Sound of Music</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-hairspray" title="Hairspray theatre breaks"> Hairspray</a></p>
<p>New shows you can book theatre breaks for now:</p>
<p><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-oliver" title="Oliver theatre breaks">Oliver</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-imaginethis" title="imagine this theatre breaks"> Imagine This</a><br />
<a href="http://www.show-and-stay.co.uk/carousel.html?agent=wq213" title="Carousel theatre breaks"> Carousel</a><br />
<a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/breaks-zorro"> Zorro</a></p>
<h3>Theatre breaks Booking tips</h3>
<p>* Try to be flexible with your preferred dates, but if you fancy a Saturday night or even New Year&#8217;s Eve these are still worth checking.<br />
* If you have two or three possible shows in mind then you get more hotel choice and overall cost possibilities.<br />
* Weigh up hotel prices against location eg The Strand Palace is very convenient for most of Theatreland but Billy Elliot and Wicked are on at Victoria. Some of the best value hotels are near Kings Cross or South Kensington / Gloucester Road so you might need a <a href="http://usefulwiki.com/londontheatre/london-black-cabs.html" title="London Black Cabs for theatre breaks">London black cab</a> after the show.<br />
* Extra nights can be good value so see if you can possibly make time for a three night stay in London and make the most of your <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/theatrebreaksc">theatre breaks booking</a>.</p>
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<p>This might sound like a stupid question - &#8220;<strong>where does money come from</strong>&#8221; - but how many people actually know?</p>
<p>In recent days European and UK national banks have pumped billions of Euros and pounds into the economies to try and stabilise a volatile market. The US is debating whether to spend $700 billion dollars on covering bad housing debts. People are asking why should tax payers pay for the well heeled banking speculators mistakes, and will it be enough! Where does $700 billion come from? Where does <strong>one</strong> dollar, Pound or Euro come from?</p>
<h4>Origins of Money</h4>
<p>Money originated soon after the time when the simplest forms of  trading began. Once people got the hang of surviving from day to day in a hand to mouth existence, they had a little spare time to themselves. Different people started to specialise in different types of work. So if I could make more than enough animal skin coats for myself and family, and somebody else could catch more fish than they needed, we might give some away to each other. At first this must have been how it worked. Descended from primates who lived in large social groups, we mostly looked after each other by instinct.</p>
<h4>Early Humans</h4>
<p>As things progressed, early humans who were genetically pretty much identical to ourselves became more efficient at simple farming, making pots and other basic crafts. The opposable thumb left over from gripping tree branches was a big help, as was the ability to form grammatical meaning out of vocal cries.</p>
<h4>Surplus and Transport</h4>
<p>The extended families grew into tribes and the tribes into larger communities. People wandered further afield and bumped into other settlements, sometimes specialised for a slightly different lifestyle. Rivers and coasts were the super highways along which regular travels could be undertaken and occasional trading relationships were established.</p>
<p>But there was only ever anything to trade as long as people were surviving reasonably well and had some spare capacity to create a surplus of worthwhile products. Without refrigeration, a surplus of fish became a stinking heap after a few days so that was no use.  A good pot could be used for preserving foraged food for longer though, so a pot was well worth bartering for if you haven&#8217;t got one. But how many animal skins are worth two pots?</p>
<h4>The Underlying Calculation of Barter</h4>
<p>The calculation would have been based roughly on availability. If  community A had produced a surplus of 4 pots since the last trade  and commuity B had produced 8 extra animal skins then two skins for one pot would have seemed like a fair trade. As the surpluses grew and the number of parties taking part increased so the bartering became more complicated. One canoe is worth 9 animal skins so if I give you 5 pots you can give me one skin change, which I don&#8217;t really need, but I might be able to swap for some particularly tasty berries. In this example the animal skin is being used for its exchange value rather than its intrinsic value, and it&#8217;s exchange value is still linked to the amount of time and effort put into catching the animal and processing the skin, including some part of making the tools for  hunting and scraping.</p>
<h4>Precious Metal Coin Money</h4>
<p>The inconvenience of carrying around skins, pots and canoes just for use as small change soon became a burden, so anything just as valuable but smaller and more transportable was preferred. In it&#8217;s earliest form, money was made out of precious metals and the value of the coin was related to the weight and value of the silver or gold. That  is, to the amount of work involved in finding, mining and refining the precious metals. This worked so well you could set off from Phonoecia (Iraq/Lebanon) and sail across the Med, through the straits of Gibraltar, up past the  coast  of  Gallicia all the way to the West of the British Isles just to collect some tin and drop off a load of grain.</p>
<p>Confidence in the value of metal coins was such that some people were even able to give up farming, boatbuilding, mining and pottery to become full time travellers and traders.</p>
<p>End of <strong>Where does money come from</strong>  part one - more next week..</p>
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Various attempts have been made over the years, some successful, to reintroduce wildlife species into areas where they have become extinct in the past.
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<p>Various attempts have been made over the years, some successful, to reintroduce wildlife species into areas where they have become extinct in the past.</p>
<p>The ospreys in England are one well known example, and a similar scheme is currently underway to reintroduce sea eagles into Scotland. This season is the second in a five year plan to release young sea eagles taken as chicks from Norway and already there are some breeding pairs reported. They&#8217;ve been seen around the Isle of May in Fife as well as in the North West Highlands. But there is a problem. As the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7630655.stm">farming today programme</a> on BBC radio 4 reported, crofters in Gairloch are complaining about the sea eagles taking lambs. It is claimed that as many as 50% of one farmer&#8217;s lambs have been destroyed and that conservation groups are not taking the problem seriously.</p>
<h3>RSPB</h3>
<p>The <a href="http://scripts.affiliatefuture.com/AFClick.asp?affiliateID=123936&amp;merchantID=917&amp;programmeID=3146&amp;mediaID=0&amp;tracking=&amp;url=">RSPB</a> pointed out that there are only three breeding pairs of sea eagle in the Gairloch area, and it would be highly unlikely the birds were responsible for the loss of all of the lambs. A spokesman for the crofting foundation said &#8220;We feel they put the birds here without our consent and without asking our advice.&#8221;  So there we have a conflict of interest that may be quite hard to resolve.  Sheep have been kept on hillsides ever since the land was cleared but white tailed sea eagles are historically indigenous to the country. How do we decide when to embark on a reintroduction programme?  If there were a way to compete with the greys I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;d all be in favour of the reintroduction of red squirrels into the english countryside where they have been wiped out. Some people would reintroduce the wolf into Northern forests. But if it were possible to bring back the sabre toothed tiger and let them loose on Salisbury Plain I somehow don&#8217;t think it would happen.</p>
<h3>Who decides?</h3>
<p>Wild boar were once a common species in english woodlands and modern gastronomic tastes have brought about domestic cross bred boars, some of which have escaped and multiplied in the wild. Where this has become a problem they have been culled as an interloper, like the Canada geese in  Victoria Park, Hackney.  Who is entitled to make these decisions as to which species shall be allowed, reintroduced or culled? There is a difference between environmental concern and conservationism, habitat management, agricultural needs and possible pandering to a sentimental foem of tourism with attraction only to certain kinds of species which attract charity revenue.</p>
<h3>Sea eagles have landed - video</h3>
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<h3>Sea Eagles Update:</h3>
<h4 class="heading"><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/environment/sea-eagles-are-not-eating-lambs">Lamb not on sea eagles’ menu, says RSPB</a></h4>
<blockquote><p>The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds ( <a href="http://scripts.affiliatefuture.com/AFClick.asp?affiliateID=123936&amp;merchantID=917&amp;programmeID=3146&amp;mediaID=0&amp;tracking=&amp;url=">RSPB</a> ) described the claims of some crofters as nonsense and said that the birds would have taken only carrion. It said that the birds thrived mainly on a diet of herring gulls, fulmars and fish fed to them by friendly trawlermen.</p></blockquote>
<p>another source: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4813644.ece">Timesonline </a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4813644.ece"></a><br />
I&#8217;m not very happy abut the fulmars!</p>
<h4><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE48N6EU20080924">Lamb-eating sea eagles upset Scottish farmers</a></h4>
<blockquote><p>William Fraser, chairman of the Gairloch and Poolewe branch of the Crofting Foundation: &#8220;In a few years time there&#8217;ll be no sheep left on the hills,&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It has also been claimed that bird watching is a hobby that creates little or no income for an area, whereas crofting / farming is a way of life and an income provider. On the other hand, eagles and the largest birds of prey are more likely to live off carrion so most of the sheep may be already dead.</p>
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		<title>Untangle This</title>
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Sometimes it can seem as if everything has been so interwoven and tangled up that it will never be possible to straighten out any one individual strand. But why would you need to anyway? The main thing from the subjective point of view is not to get washed up on the beach in the first [...]]]></description>
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<p>Sometimes it can seem as if everything has been so interwoven and tangled up that it will never be possible to straighten out any one individual strand. But why would you need to anyway? The main thing from the subjective point of view is <strong>not</strong> to get washed up on the beach in the first place.</p>
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		<title>Loading Up The Lobster Pots</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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Loading up a small boat with lobster pots ready to put out from Anstruther in the East Neuk of Fife.

I&#8217;ve always been fascinated to watch the comings and going in these little fishing village harbours in Cornwall, France, Spain and now the east of Scotland.
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<h3>Lobster pot fishing</h3>
<p>Loading up a small boat with <strong>lobster pots</strong> ready to put out from Anstruther in the East Neuk of Fife.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve always been fascinated to watch the comings and going in these little fishing village harbours in Cornwall, France, Spain and now the east of Scotland.</p>
<p>&#8220;We watch the working boats come in,<br />
to see what they have caught&#8221;.</p>
<h3>Lobster Pots in Cornwall</h3>
<p>The <em><a href="http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/photos/img99.htm">lobster pots</a></em> in Cornwall landed in little harbours such as Coverack but also Newlyn used to be made of wood and wire but now they seem to be mostly plastic. The mouth lets the lobster enter a funnel shaped tunnel into the main chamber where some enticing bait is waiting. Then they can&#8217;t find a way out again. Small boats drop the lobster pots several at a time over the sea floor in known lobster feeding places, marked by a floating buoy so they can be picked up later. Those floating buoys used to be made of coloured glass and many found their way into Cornish pubs as &#8216;tasteful&#8217; decorations.</p>
<h3>Lobster Pot Fishing</h3>
<p>Lobster Pot fishing is all about setting the baited pots in a known lobster habitat and then coming back in a boat to see what&#8217;s crawled in. This video &#8220;Mark &#038; Dennis Chapter 2 Lobster Pots&#8221;  taken in Dorset off West Bay captures some of the excitement of hauling in the lobster pots and seeing what&#8217;s there. </p>
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		<title>School Of Everything</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night at Channel 4 in Horseferry Road, London  The School of Everything launched. I&#8217;d heard about school of everything from various places over the past year, and gathered the idea is to encourage informal learning about subjects that people wish to  learn more about, rather than agendas to promote qualifications and assessment. So [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night at Channel 4 in Horseferry Road, London  <strong>The School of Everything</strong> launched. I&#8217;d heard about school of everything from various places over the past year, and gathered the idea is to encourage informal learning about subjects that people wish to  learn more about, rather than agendas to promote qualifications and assessment. So people with a need to learn can be put in touch with people who have some knowledge or skills to share, so it&#8217;s a matching service.</p>
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<p><a href="http://schoolofeverything.com/explore">explore school of everything</a></p>
<p>Upon arrival at the school of everything homepage,  you are greeted with the simple slogan in large bold type <strong><font size="24">&#8220;Learn more&#8221;</font></strong></p>
<p>and then you get the chance to either sign up as a person, or as a teacher.</p>
<p>Within the UK, this might  provide  a vibrant alternative for all sorts of learning which are no longer covered by the run down local authorities&#8217; adult education sectors. The school of everything also has ambitions to become a well populated international website on the global startups scene.</p>
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		<title>Learning by Doing - interview part 5</title>
		<link>http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/08/30/learning-by-doing-interview-part-5</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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Cormac Lawler:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing the interview with <a href="http://cormaggio.org/">Cormac Lawler</a>, in which we begin to address the nature of &#8220;<strong>learning by doing</strong>&#8221; as it relates to distributed projects, and wiki in particular.</p>
<p>Cormac Lawler:</p>
<p>About changing of groups&#8217; structure over time, I think my own domain (Wikiversity) is showing an increasingly strong tension along the lines of making Wikiversity a place of &#8216;blue-sky&#8217; or experimental learning versus an alignment to known pedagogical forms. See <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_talk:Learning_resources#the_wiki_way.3F">Wikiversity_talk:Learning_resources#the_wiki_way.3F</a> and below for some discursive material on this topic. It&#8217;s perhaps not an example of a change of guard as such (and the debate within Wikiversity&#8217;s development is not new), but I&#8217;m starting to see the tension as a pretty fundamental one for Wikiversity.</p>
<p><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog" title="Andy Roberts blog">Andy Roberts</a> asks:</p>
<p>Reading that discussion again on the Wikiversity page, it strikes me that both sides of the tension referred to are in fact agreed upon working within the same framework. The dispute, if I&#8217;m not mistaken is over the nature and quality of the learning resources which are to be accumulated in the Wikiversity. Neither side appears to be questioning the basic model of education based on learning from supplied content. The references to &#8216;experimental&#8217; forms seem to remain within experimental forms of content provision, without questioning that preconception. Despite the claim that</p>
<p>&#8220;Wikiversity has adopted a &#8220;<em>learn by doing</em>&#8221; model for education&#8221;</p>
<p>the doing appears to consist entirely of editing pages to create more resources.<br />
Do you think a bias towards conventional content based learning is built in to the wiki way?</p>
<p>C:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fascinating question - and I think you&#8217;re right that it is to a large extent. However - and this is more on the basis of knowing the involved people, rather than on what is on the page I linked to previously - I think that there has always been a strong desire to take a broad look at educational activity, and what role a wiki can play in that process. For example, some of the &#8220;content&#8221; produced on a wiki can be a record of a discussion where someone asks a question, and people respond with answers, suggestions, and/or questions of their own. Some of the content on Wikiversity has been explicitly initiated and developed as a debate - eg <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/War_and_Iran">en.wikiversity.org/wiki/War_and_Iran</a>. I don&#8217;t know if that conforms to your view of conventional content creation?</p>
<p>However, this &#8220;<em>learning by doing</em>&#8221; is a tricky concept - and I&#8217;ve been<br />
pushing JWSchmidt, the originator of this concept in Wikiversity, to be more<br />
explicit in explaining to me and the community what he thinks it might mean<br />
in practice - and in detail. So far, I&#8217;ve found the concept as applied to<br />
Wikiversity to be infuriatingly opaque - and I can see that others do too.<br />
It&#8217;s something that I&#8217;ve always wanted to clarify on Wikiversity - what do<br />
we mean by <u>learning by doing</u>, how can someone be guided through or motivated<br />
to begin in such a model, and what kinds of educational experiences can we<br />
anticipate, so as to scaffold learners if, whenever, and however<br />
appropriate?</p>
<p>A:</p>
<p>How might other learning processes be facilitated through Wikiversity? I&#8217;m thinking of the newer emerging learning models such as connectivism, which would place the emphasis on the network between people and the community above content. This might require additional tools to the document based wiki, but needn&#8217;t be entirely separate.</p>
<p>C:</p>
<p>I agree - and we&#8217;ve been discussing tools to facilitate just such initiatives on a centralised page: <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Technical_needs">Wikiversity:Technical_needs</a> including the SocialProfile extension <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SocialProfile">www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SocialProfile</a>. We already have a &#8217;sandbox server&#8217; to experiment with different tools - but to actually get extensions and other innovations approved on a relatively small Wikimedia wiki is difficult when in the shadow of Wikipedia. However, with community mobilisation, and more developers&#8217; resources at our disposal (a software developer hiring was just announced yesterday, and there may very well be more) - we should continue to build on the mediawiki platform to see what it can offer in the world of connected, collaborative learning.</p>
<p>I see we&#8217;ve forked into a discussion of Wikiversity - and it&#8217;s very welcome! - but I also very much wanted this discussion to focus on <strong>action research</strong> and issues that we&#8217;ve both experienced in an online AR context. I think I&#8217;ll leave this to my next mail. <img src='http://distributedresearch.net/blog/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' title="Learning By Doing   Interview Part 5 Pic" /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Cormac</p>
<p>Earlier posts in this series:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/06/11/the-darnet-interview-distributed-action-research">DARnet-interview-part 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/06/15/darnet-interview-part-two">DARnet interview part two</a></li>
<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/07/02/questions-about-wikiversity">Part 3: Questions About Wikiversity</a></li>
<li> Part 4: <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/08/11/cormac-interview-wikiversity-and-wikipedia">Wikiversity and Wikipedia</a>  <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/08/11/cormac-interview-wikiversity-and-wikipedia"><br />
</a></li>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the August bank holiday weekend coming up soon, the end of summer looms large ahead and I for one shall be welcoming it with open arms.  Just a few years ago at this time of year I would have been sitting in a tent in a field somewhere like North Wales enjoying the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the August <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/05/05/bank-holiday-weekend-10-things-to-do-in-london">bank holiday weekend</a> coming up soon, the end of summer looms large ahead and I for one shall be welcoming it with open arms.  Just a few years ago at this time of year I would have been sitting in a tent in a field somewhere like North Wales enjoying the outdoor life but for the past two years the traditional holiday month of August has been a washout and it has been just as well to stay at home and get some work done.</p>
<p>The real summer of course invariably takes place in June and early July and this year was no exception so why are the school children, parents, students and education workers forced to take their annual rest time in August, the damp chilly fag-end of the season?  Well legend has it that it all goes back to a time when the youth of nation were required on the land to help with bringing in the harvest. I was even involved in that particular agricultural tradition myself  as a lad, picking up potatoes in the fields of <a href="http://www.shortlanesendgarage.co.uk/">Shortlanesend</a> near Truro.</p>
<p>John Richards had a small mixed arable farm, a couple of  old Massey Ferguson tractors, a hay barn and two daughters. So labour intensive was the work required at specific times of the year that small armies of child workers were recruited, happy to be exploited for a small pittance per hour in the name of doing some real, grownup work,  passing the endless boring long days of summer and  earning a bit of pocket money. In order to join in I had to cycle a small pushbike down the hill into town and steeply up the other side for a couple of miles just to get there. Upon arrival at the proper start time there was always a lot of waiting around to  be done before you even knew what was happening. Some crucial piece of machinery would be waiting to come back from a neighbouring farm, or the key to the diesel pump shed had gone<img src="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/masseyferguson35.jpg" title="Massey Ferguson Tractor" alt="Massey Ferguson Tractor" align="right" height="179" hspace="10" vspace="5" width="221" /> missing, we were waiting for a field inspection or somesuch holdup. Eventually perhaps just before lunchtime  we might actually get out onto the field and do some potato picking. The old red tractor chugged down the length of the field for once row at a time, pulling an attachment called a spinner which was like a big circular rake. It dug through the soil,  scooped up the densely grown ripe potatoes  and flung them up into the air. What happened to them next? They fell back onto the ground of course, and our job was to bend down and pick them up and put them into buckets. It was back breaking work in the summer sun, hour after hour. The buckets of potatoes were tipped into sacks, then the full sacks tied up with twisted wires and loaded onto a trailer. At the end of a good day, the trailer would be stacked full of half hundred weight sacks of good quality clean  potatoes, but only if conditions were perfect. There was one thing that was guaranteed to scupper the whole process and that thing was rain.</p>
<p>A little bit of light rain and we would carry on harvesting the potatoes. Never mind if we all got a bit damp, it&#8217;s was Cornwall so we were used to that. A sudden shower and we&#8217;d take cover hoping  it would pass over.  If the shower eased up we&#8217;d be back out again, even if only for a quarter of an hour before it got worse. But once the serious , persistent rain started up that was it. You can&#8217;t harvest potatoes out from muddy fields, at least not with the equipment available to a small family farm in those days. If it rained overnight there would be no work the next morning, then maybe not for the next week if it kept up. Maybe even a fortnight! Eventually in a bad year the potatoes would be left in for so long after they were ready that they&#8217;d just rot in the soggy ground, abandoned until it was time to plough them back in again, a breeding ground for <a href="http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profiles0701/potato_blight.asp" title="potato blight">blight</a> and other fungal diseases.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s nothing new about rainy, washout weeks in August, that&#8217;s quite normal and yet so often we feel cheated when the sun doesn&#8217;t shine endlessly through the summer season like in Portugal or the Mediterranean.  Where does that expectation come from I wonder?</p>
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DARnet-interview-part 1
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a bit of a gap, the two-way interview between <a href="http://cormaggio.org/">Cormac Lawler</a> and myself continues. This post continues the discussion about distributed action research and wikiversity from previous episodes:</p>
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<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/06/11/the-darnet-interview-distributed-action-research">DARnet-interview-part 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/06/15/darnet-interview-part-two">DARnet interview part two</a></li>
<li><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/07/02/questions-about-wikiversity">Part 3: Questions About Wikiversity</a></li>
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<p><strong>Andy Roberts</strong>  asked:</p>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex"><p>I&#8217;d be very interested to hear to what extent parts of Wikiversity have managed to break away from the idea of the &#8220;course&#8221;,  the expert, and the content. If you have people transfering across from the Wikipedia culture then it&#8217;s going to cause problems, but you could always fork a minority project for the more revolutionary work if it seems to be getting defeated.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Cormac Lawler</strong> replies:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a real challenge in allowing for different models of education to take place in the same space. As you point out (and as has JWSchmidt in the page I linked to), Wikipedians will inevitably bring a particular culture with them in the development of what they think Wikiversity to be. (Although I&#8217;d be hesitant to make a grand generalisation on that point.) So one of the major challenges Wikiversity faces is to allow different communities develop microcultures of learning that are appropriate for them. However this itself raises a challenge around whether a microcommunity might develop that has questionable practices (like, say, Nazi apologists - to take an extreme example) - and what then could be done in order to subject a community, resource or statement to educational critique - or indeed, whether someone could be banned or their resources deleted. This brings us to the heart of the question you asked of what this institution is and who it is intended to serve.</p>
<p>Some examples of &#8216;different&#8217; types of learning projects/communities would include things like the <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Reading_groups">reading groups</a> and <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wiki_Campus_Radio">podcasting</a> and <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity_the_Movie">filmmaking</a> initiatives (both long in decline). I would also regard some of the research activities to be exploring different means of using wikis educationally - including my own, and the <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Bloom_Clock">Bloom clock</a> (a means of logging what plants are in bloom, but also of learning about plants). There is also a recent initiative to <a href="http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Ethical_Management_of_the_English_Language_Wikipedia">question ethical practices within Wikipedia</a>, which is purportedly an <em>action research</em> initiative, but which seems to be running in different directions at once, including a fairly traditional one (which could well be the participants constraining themselves to conform to what *they think* Wikiversity is supposed to be, ie an educational content creation mechanism).</p>
<p>However, having said this, I&#8217;m still slightly disappointed in the breadth of initiatives on Wikiversity that seek to challenge, expand or break the mould of more traditional models. I still think that this process needs more time, but I had hoped for more examples of what was possible at this stage, two years into its autonomous development. However, of course, I regard myself as very much culpable in this respect!</p>
<p>Andy  again:</p>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex"><p>Ten years ago you could find out just about anything by tracking down<br />
the right bulletin board or newsgroup, asking a carefully explained<br />
question, and coming back later to view responses or ask a<br />
supplementary. Within a few days you&#8217;d have the best the net could<br />
come up with. Now we have Google search, with all its limitations and<br />
gaming, and google scholar for some of the hidden internet, but you<br />
can still usually track down the author of particularly pertinent<br />
idea, find out their online presence with a bit of luck and chance a<br />
speculative email. So the backbone infrastructure of having<br />
connections between devices all over the world will always find a way<br />
to serve people who know a little bit about how to seek and connect,<br />
no matter what infrastructure is built on top of it all, and I&#8217;m still<br />
pretty optimistic about that regardless of whether we lose some<br />
battles along the way such as net neutrality or the health of the<br />
regime in charge of Wikipedia.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and for the health of the &#8220;regime&#8221;, see the ethical questioning project I linked to above (which generated quite a bit of unease and hostility in its beginning, and which may itself have ethical questions around it). I think you&#8217;re right to say that people will be able to find someone else to ask questions of - but it does seem to favour people who, as you say, already &#8220;know a little bit&#8221; about how to do so. I&#8217;d like to also help people who start from a lower base of social confidence or net-savviness - and this might partly be addressed through network, connectivist initiatives you mentioned in your subsequent mail. I think I&#8217;ll answer that one now, separately.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Cormac</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the use of twitter continues to spread despite the restricted service and downtime, a commonplace event for communities is to start compiling lists of links to each other&#8217;s twitter accounts. These are handy for anybody who hasn&#8217;t already built up their network because you can quickly add a bunch of people who are all involved in the same interest or practice. Acting as a kind of jump start into twitter for groups, it feels like a community indicator of some sort.</p>
<p>If the community is based mainly on a web forum or email list then it can start with a message from one member who is a twitter enthusiast, that turns into a long thread with the same message re-quoted and a new line added at the bottom. That&#8217;s not ideal, but it works for a while and builds up a volume of attention to the activity.</p>
<p>Over on one bloggers&#8217; forum we tried  compiling the list of member&#8217;s twitter links and putting it into a new service called &#8220;dropio&#8221; where anybody could upload new files and links, but that service proved problematic.</p>
<p>When the same process broke out at E-mint, a community for online facilitators, &#8216;community managers&#8217; and moderators it wasn&#8217;t long before somebody - <a href="http://www.edmitchell.co.uk">Ed Mitchell</a> - said &#8220;Definitely a wiki job, this one&#8221; and so here we have the &#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://distributedresearch.net/wiki/index.php/Emint_Twitters">E-mint twitter list on DARwiki </a></p>
<p>The advantage of having the twitter list on a wiki is that you can link to what will be always the latest version and that members can easily add themselves or make corrections.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a person-centric or blog-centric community such as Darren Rowse&#8217;s pro-blogger readers, the <a href="http://www.problogger.net/538-twitter-users-that-blog/">twitter list</a> is gathered from the comments left on an <a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/07/22/welcome-to-the-problogger-social-media-love-in/">invitation post</a> and then published on the blog.</p>
<p>If the community is forming in a friendfeed room then there&#8217;s probably no need to compile a twitter list at all because the aggregator sort of does that automatically in that each member&#8217;s tweets are in their own streams and twitter links in their services page - which stands in as a profile page on friendfeed.</p>
<p>What other formats and processes have you seen out there for gathering twitter lists?</p>
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		<title>London Bloggers new venue, competition and pubs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m looking forward to the London Bloggers meetup tonight at a new venue near  Blackfriars Bridge. Organiser  Andy Bargery says there will be &#8220;plenty of space and cracking views over the Thames&#8221; which sounds good.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the <strong>London Bloggers</strong> <a href="http://blog.meetup.com/395/">meetup</a> tonight at a new venue near  Blackfriars Bridge. Organiser  <a href="http://www.marketingblagger.com/">Andy Bargery</a> says there will be &#8220;plenty of space and cracking views over the Thames&#8221; which sounds good.</p>
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<p>With it being a larger venue, I noticed on the <a href="http://blog.meetup.com/395/">meetup site</a> that there are still two places left at the time of writing, which would be unusual this close to the event normally. So the London bloggers group is slowly developing into an enjoyably friendly and interesting regular event, with occasional sponsorship, some presentations and now even a competion with a great prize. It&#8217;s a trip on an Airship no less., something I&#8217;ve always fancied but unfortunately the deadline has passed - doh!</p>
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<p>Actually one of the reasons I missed the date was because <em>entry</em> to the London Bloggers competition was by <a href="http://www.londonbloggers.net/44/stellas-joining-us-for-the-summer-party/">writing about your local pub</a> and why it&#8217;s so good. Where I happen to live, all the local pubs are pretty dire right now so it&#8217;s hard to find inspiration on that particular topic. Local pubs are an important community resource in smaller towns, village and city centres as well but in London they tend to be more like retail outlets which happen to sell some drinks or else shabby old buildings with few customers where the manager is just keeping things ticking over.  So we tend to have to get on a bus or train to visit a pub  which we&#8217;d want to be in and that actually sells something we want to drink, and if you&#8217;ve taken transport to go out of your own borough then that hardly counts as local does it.</p>
<p>Even if I&#8217;d decided to write about say <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide_to_East_London#Redbridge">the George at Wanstead</a>, which was lovely and cool inside on the hottest day of the year and sells Westons Old Rosie and Organic Vintage ciders on draught, I&#8217;d have had to mention the funny group of old men who   hang around on weekday afternoons, the Friday night meat market, the  gauntlet of smokers crowding the entrance and the highly strained relations  between bar and kitchen staff which  ought to put you off eating anything that comes out of there.</p>
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		<title>Greenwich Naval College - A fine Greenwich College</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Naval College Buildings at Greenwich College

Viewed from Island Gardens at the tip of the Isle of Dogs across the river, because the DLR train service to Cutty Sark was suffering from delays on Sunday.  The buildings were designed by Sir Christopher Wren just as he was limbering up to build an even bigger [...]]]></description>
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Viewed from Island Gardens at the tip of the Isle of Dogs across the river, because the DLR train service to Cutty Sark was suffering from delays on Sunday.  The buildings were designed by Sir Christopher Wren just as he was limbering up to build an even bigger dome on top of St Paul&#8217;s Cathederal. So the ones atop this Greenwich College were kind of prototypes.</p>
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<p>The aim of our trip was to enjoy an evening cruise but that was cancelled too, never mind. Another surprise was to see a giant ferris wheel next to where the Cutty Sark is meant to be.</p>
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<p>This is just opposite the Greenwich College site, more or less.</p>
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		<title>Eurostar Paris trains from London getting busier</title>
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I used to wonder what would happen after the Eurostar Paris trains were diverted from the interim Waterloo International station to the new St Pancras and now we are beginning to see the answer.  International commuters in their thousands are switching from short haul flights between the two capitals to the fast St Pancras [...]]]></description>
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I used to wonder what would happen after the <em>Eurostar Paris</em> trains were diverted from the interim Waterloo International station to the new St Pancras and now we are beginning to see the answer.  International commuters in their thousands are switching from short haul flights between the two capitals to the fast St Pancras service by Eurostar. Paris has of course been moved 20 minutes closer to London since November last year, but it&#8217;s also the higher price of aviation fuel which has driven people away from the troubled terminals at London&#8217;s airports. So the situation now on an early weekday morning is that  the waiting areas at  St Pancras station are chock a block with people heading to Paris in time for a full day&#8217;s worth of meetings.</p>
<p><a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article4296525.ece" title="Eurostar Paris route busy">The Times business </a> observes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The airline industry has been crushed by the price of kerosene and deserted by passengers fed up with delays. After decades of disappointment, false dawns and virtually bankrupt Channel Tunnels, we have finally arrived at the age of the train and the evidence is in the crowd at St Pancras.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Traffic growth on Eurostar increased by 21 per cent in the first quarter of 2008 compared with the same period in 2007, with growth in the second quarter  supposedly at similar rates. So the combination of fuel prices, airport delays and the shaving of 20 minutes off the <em>London-Paris Eurostar</em> journey time has boosted income by 25 per cent according to The Times.</p>
<p>When the channel tunnel was first mooted in the 1980s, a lot of people were expecting a road tunnel they could drive through. More said they would be afraid to go into a long tunnel under the sea, and would stick with the ferries, though it was feared the ferry companies might be driven out of business by the new tunnel. The roll on roll off ferries from Dover are still running, providing cheap cross channel deals for slightly less urgent freight transport, but it&#8217;s the short hop airline routes between the south of England and the business cities in the North of France, Belgium and Holland  which were always the main competiton for the Eurostar express trains, with their city centre to city centre advantage.</p>
<p>So the problem now is that the old award winning Waterloo terminal for Eurostar is closed while the new St Pancras Station is getting near to capacity already. So why didn&#8217;t they build it bigger or else plan to keep both running, giving  travellers a choice between South and North London connection points for the Eurostar Paris trains?</p>
<p>I suppose the shortage of waiting areas at St Pancras might be eased when the Stratford International station comes into service, taking some of the strain for passengers heading for <a href="http://capitalstyle.co.uk/parisbreaks" title="Eurostar Paris Breaks">Paris breaks</a> originating from East London and the City. I&#8217;ve heard it has already been built but can&#8217;t be opened because it&#8217;s in the middle of an Olympic Games 2012  building site.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve never been on a <em>Eurostar Paris trip</em>, here&#8217;s a longish video from youtube which gives a nice impression of what the journey is like.</p>
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