What’s odd about this Dartboard? Found in an East London Pub


Do you notice anything odd about this dartboard seen in an East London pub recently? Most darts boards look a bit like this, but different.

londonfivesdartboard.jpg

How on earth would you ever end a game of 301 on such a dart board?

This entry was posted in London. Bookmark the permalink.

Comments welcome via facebook:

17 Responses to What’s odd about this Dartboard? Found in an East London Pub

  1. mark says:

    Only 12 numbers! Cool – it took a while. And only 5,10,15 and 20!

  2. Andy Roberts says:

    On a conventional dartboard, any two adjacent numbers add up to the same – 21 but on this one it could be 30 ,25 or 20. So where should you aim to get the best chances of the highest score?

    • Eddie says:

      How about treble twenty .I play top 20s as im a clock board player as well but some people throw left or right twentys .Ive hit hundreds of 180s on both boards and have lots of 180 trophys .Ive not played in a league since i moved out of london but i do miss it .I played on both boards for two different teams .Ive just board a board and throw a few darts in doors to get my arm in im still hitting 180s so i might look about for a local team .Anyone know any in Hornchurch area that need players .Im 63 yrs old

      • Andy says:

        The board you are looking at is called a London Narrow 5′s Board as opposed to an Ipswich 5′s Board. The difference being the doubles and trebles are half the width of a normal clock board on the London one. You also throw from 9ft and not 8ft. Games are played with 3 games of 8 Players from 1005, 2 games of 4 Players from 805 and 4 games of 2 Players from 505. The East London Darts League has benn going for more than 40 years now. feel free to look in on our web site at http://www.eastlondondarts.com
        Eddie if you read this we are always looking for players so give us a ring. Andy at the Greyhound.

  3. johnny rotten says:

    Actually, on a conventional dartboard not just any two adjacent numbers add up to 21…
    Seriously, go look at a dartboard.

    • Andy Roberts says:

      So they don’t. I’m not sure where I got that crazy idea from, but somewhere…In fact I think it would be impossible to layout a dartboard so that adjacent numbers add up to the same sum. Maybe it’s the diagonal opposites or something.

  4. rashbre says:

    the doubles and triples look a bit narrow to me.

  5. mark says:

    I think the doubles and triples look narrow as they are elongated compared to a dartboard with the correct numbering

  6. Joe Higman says:

    So, what are the rules of the games they play using this board? Were there other local layouts for dartboards? I’m glad to see that a local variation has survived, in spite of the odds. When I was a kid in Oxford they used to play Aunt Sally in the garden of my local, where I started drinking when I was 14 (till the landlady spotted me in school uniform on a bus). Now that garden is a car park. You rarely see people play games at all in pubs these days, although I now live in Plymouth where there are Euchre leagues, and where a few pubs still have skittle alleys.

    • Andy Roberts says:

      Joe, There are still a few pubs here and there where the old games are still played, and some attempts to reintroduce them. Euchre is getting popular again in Cornwall, but not as quickly as gig racing! There were a few pubs with skittle alleys in East Kent, but it seems to be mainly just pool tables and watching sport on TV these days .

      I found out a bit about the history of this dartboard layout at The East london Advertiser. It’s called a “London Fives” board, and yes, there are a few other regional variations.

      “With three wide 20 sections, there would be three times the chance of hitting a celebrated maximum ’180′, if only the trebles weren’t so narrow and the oche-the point from which the darts are thrown-so distant.

      At nine feet, the throwing distance is more than a foot further than for the Clock board. And with no number 1, the standard dart match of ’501 up’ is replaced with games that begin at 505 points. It is only the two central ‘bullseye’ rings, worth 25 and 50 points each, which are replicated on both boards.

      As with much relating to the history of darts, there is no absolute certainty about the origin of this local board.

      The game itself has been around for centuries – with its beginnings in medieval England and France. It is generally accepted that it originated as an indoor version of archery – and the belief that Anne Boleyn presented her husband-to-be Henry VIII with a set of ornate darts, suggests the game had royal patronage as early as the sixteenth-century.

      Patrick Chaplin, Britain’s only darts historian, believes that a small indoor archery target would have been easy to hit and deadly dull to play on after a few throws – so the values of a circular archery target (5, 10, 15 and so on) were transferred to a more complicated segmented format, with the bullseye retained for good measure.

      The Fives board therefore significantly pre-dates its cousin the Clock, which first appeared in the 1890s.”

  7. Mustafa Yaramaz says:

    Yes – it is called a ’5-Board’/'Five-Board’ and is commonly used in matches by pub dart teams; they do not, however, play the usual 301 & 501 games – they play 305, 505 and 1005 games.

    The order of play varies whereby random team members face other random members of the opposite team (often the 305 & 505 games) and then at the end of the match/evening, all members from the teams play against each other (something like 8-on-8, for example) and this is where the 1005 game comes in.

    Personally, I favour the ’1-Board’/'One-Board’ as I believe that it forces the player to be more accurate and requires more consideration with regards to constructing a suitable checkout/finish.

    I hope that this has helped!

    Kind regards,

    Mustafa.

  8. john letch says:

    the london 5,s board is a good way of getting your eye in.I,ve played this board off and on for about 40 years.Instead of playing 301 its 305 and 501 is 505.I,ve played “CRICKET” on this board before now.theres also an ipswich wide 5,s board and a lincolnshire dartboard

  9. Eddie says:

    Its a 5 board been in most east london for donkeys years .I played in the 5s league 40 yrs ago whats odd about it .I played on this board thursdays and a clock board mondays and wednesdays.On the 5 board you throw from further its doubles and trebles are much narrower but longer than a clock board and you play 505 not 501 .Its simple

  10. Eddie says:

    Years ago boards were made from cork and you had to soak them in water when not being used .There is a board i think Yorkshire board that has no trebles

  11. Pingback: Dartboard | Tiny OK

  12. Daved Wilson says:

    When I was a lad (in my 6os now) all boards in Yorkshire were with out trebles. The one in my local is like that. The one in the picture is, I think, what used to be called a “Kentish Pattern”.

  13. Dave Wilson says:

    On the other hand it is more likely to ge a” London Dartboard” or a “London Fives” board.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

*

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

CommentLuv badge