Comments on: Sea Eagles in Scotland – problems of reintroducing species http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species Distributed Action Research blog by Andy Roberts Fri, 25 May 2012 09:56:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Osprey webcam thrills bird lovers as Lady of the Loch awaits mate (wildlife) http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-111785 Osprey webcam thrills bird lovers as Lady of the Loch awaits mate (wildlife) Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:41:29 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-111785 [...] log on worldwide to the Osprey webcam to watch the oldest breeding osprey keep vigil beside a Scottish [...] [...] log on worldwide to the Osprey webcam to watch the oldest breeding osprey keep vigil beside a Scottish [...]

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]]> By: Mal Taylor http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-108692 Mal Taylor Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:32:48 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-108692 Steven, I will simply answer you ridiculous statement with the words, "you do not know what you are talking about." If I was as ill-advised as you obviously are on this topic I would decline from putting my comments in print. Sorry, counterintuitive to your view, but tue! Steven, I will simply answer you ridiculous statement with the words, “you do not know what you are talking about.” If I was as ill-advised as you obviously are on this topic I would decline from putting my comments in print. Sorry, counterintuitive to your view, but tue!

]]> By: rob eagle http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-70774 rob eagle Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:50:54 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-70774 wooooohooooooo, im want to eat the eagles, have u tried it? u should. wooohooooooooo wooooohooooooo, im want to eat the eagles, have u tried it? u should.
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]]> By: Andy Roberts http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46868 Andy Roberts Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:45:26 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46868 I can believe that eagles might kill more lambs than needed for immediate consumption because other predators do the same. Foxes are thought to go into a "killing frenzy" biting the heads off dozens of chickens for no apparent good reason but they are only taking advantage of th eopportunity presented. If undisturbed they will carry each off the carcasses off into the woods and bury them in multiple places for later. Perhaps the eagles are also obeying an instinct which isn't exactly geared up for the density of farmed animals. I can believe that eagles might kill more lambs than needed for immediate consumption because other predators do the same. Foxes are thought to go into a “killing frenzy” biting the heads off dozens of chickens for no apparent good reason but they are only taking advantage of th eopportunity presented. If undisturbed they will carry each off the carcasses off into the woods and bury them in multiple places for later. Perhaps the eagles are also obeying an instinct which isn’t exactly geared up for the density of farmed animals.

]]> By: Steven Walling http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46855 Steven Walling Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:39:59 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46855 It's actually not that unlikely that a handful of eagles could kill a lot of lambs. Single eagles have been known to kill a half dozen or more adult sheep at a time, because of the manner in which it occurs. Unlike coyotes or other predators, eagles don't kill and consume entire animals in a sitting. They often attack the backs and faces of many animals in a single incident, and the animals subsequently die of the wounds through blood loss or shock (to which sheep are notoriously susceptible). Thus, while even a bear might totally eviscerate one ewe, an eagle can kill ten lambs at once. Counterintuitive, but true. It’s actually not that unlikely that a handful of eagles could kill a lot of lambs. Single eagles have been known to kill a half dozen or more adult sheep at a time, because of the manner in which it occurs. Unlike coyotes or other predators, eagles don’t kill and consume entire animals in a sitting. They often attack the backs and faces of many animals in a single incident, and the animals subsequently die of the wounds through blood loss or shock (to which sheep are notoriously susceptible). Thus, while even a bear might totally eviscerate one ewe, an eagle can kill ten lambs at once. Counterintuitive, but true.

]]> By: Claire Rodger http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46834 Claire Rodger Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:50:17 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46834 Sea eagles have already been re-introduced to Scotland (1975-1985 on Rum & 1993-1998 in wester Ross) and there is currenlt a wild popualtion made up fo some of these birds and their descendents of 43 prs over western scotland. The release in fife is the 3rd phase of this project. These birds will not breed for 4 or 5 years. There have been prs breeding in Wester Ross for many years. There has been a lot of work done to look at sea eagle diet and numbers of viable lambs taken, which shows that although eagles take lambs they have a negligible impact. What sea eagles do, do is bring in over 1.5mill to Mull tourist economy. Conservation groups are taking the matter seriouslu and it is being investigated by Scottish natural heritage. The government makes the decisions on what is re-introduced as they have to sign off the schedule 9 release licence based on various feasibility studies, poss impacts etc. Sea eagles have already been re-introduced to Scotland (1975-1985 on Rum & 1993-1998 in wester Ross) and there is currenlt a wild popualtion made up fo some of these birds and their descendents of 43 prs over western scotland.

The release in fife is the 3rd phase of this project. These birds will not breed for 4 or 5 years. There have been prs breeding in Wester Ross for many years.

There has been a lot of work done to look at sea eagle diet and numbers of viable lambs taken, which shows that although eagles take lambs they have a negligible impact. What sea eagles do, do is bring in over 1.5mill to Mull tourist economy.

Conservation groups are taking the matter seriouslu and it is being investigated by Scottish natural heritage.

The government makes the decisions on what is re-introduced as they have to sign off the schedule 9 release licence based on various feasibility studies, poss impacts etc.

]]> By: Andy Roberts http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46830 Andy Roberts Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:32:57 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46830 Thanks for suggesting we think about whole ecosystems instead of individual species. In the case of the sea eagles these would have been top level predators sot out or poisoned by humans, extinct only since 1918. Once a habitat has been protected, you can either wait for nature to move back in or have a go at seeding the population, which is a type of meddling I suppose. The fact that this is Britain’s largest bird of prey seems to give it a special concern, like the whales. Why do we prioritise animals just because they are big? Thanks for suggesting we think about whole ecosystems instead of individual species. In the case of the sea eagles these would have been top level predators sot out or poisoned by humans, extinct only since 1918.
Once a habitat has been protected, you can either wait for nature to move back in or have a go at seeding the population, which is a type of meddling I suppose. The fact that this is Britain’s largest bird of prey seems to give it a special concern, like the whales. Why do we prioritise animals just because they are big?

]]> By: Karyn Romeis http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46799 Karyn Romeis Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:35:14 +0000 http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/09/23/sea-eagles-in-scotland-problems-of-reintroducing-species#comment-46799 The thing is, if we re-introduce one without reintroducing the rest of its natural ecosystem (prey and predators), and without getting rid of the interlopers, we could generate an imbalance that is worse than what we have now. I don't what the answer is, but I tend to think 'meddling' isn't it. Mind you, I am (by a long margin) the worst informed member of my family on the subject of ecosystems and the like... the rest of them are all pretty clued up. Pity none of them inhabit the blogosphere. I suspect they're have something far more useful to contribute. The thing is, if we re-introduce one without reintroducing the rest of its natural ecosystem (prey and predators), and without getting rid of the interlopers, we could generate an imbalance that is worse than what we have now.

I don’t what the answer is, but I tend to think ‘meddling’ isn’t it.

Mind you, I am (by a long margin) the worst informed member of my family on the subject of ecosystems and the like… the rest of them are all pretty clued up. Pity none of them inhabit the blogosphere. I suspect they’re have something far more useful to contribute.

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